tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post6644206127960201820..comments2023-09-20T01:01:46.386-07:00Comments on Battybattybats' Cave Of Rationality: Ethics and Fighting for Rights and Running Support/Issues/Discussion WebsitesBattybattybatshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18030389503526882755noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-28998126470587473762010-04-19T16:00:38.624-07:002010-04-19T16:00:38.624-07:00interesting points.....
and,cool.
i'd like t...interesting points.....<br /><br />and,cool. <br />i'd like to see you on trannystar or somewhere....& have fun traveling!<br /><br />ps<br />i didn't know lisa was aussie(!) <br />she uses "no worries" too, it's local,i guess, to you.....<br />yanks say, like, "no problemo" lol<br />(sounds like A. swartzenegger.....)<br />also your apperance sounds so cool, i'd love to see you do you- tube, i think people would get into you<br />(there WILL be rednecks, tho....)<br />you have to have a thick hide....<br />G ^*^gaeligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143753398630917915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-61704773331121752412010-04-15T20:42:35.411-07:002010-04-15T20:42:35.411-07:00No worries about spelling and typing. I am useless...No worries about spelling and typing. I am useless at touch-typing, my long nails occassionally clip other nearby keys and of course theres occassional CFS related muscle issues too not to mention my CFS playing havoc with my memory of spelling too lol.<br /><br />Spellings value is just to convey meaning, if i understand what your saying theres no problem with a missed comma, misstruck key or the wrong there/their etc and if i cant tell what your saying i'll just ask you to clarify. No worries.<br /><br />As for needing to focus on the less hostile spaces i totally understand that. All activists and commentators can risk burnout, we have to care for our ourselves too to be able to make a difference.<br /><br />As for caring proportions of GLB folk, i think its directly proportional to their internalisation. As societal views of sexuality are intrinsicly linked to sex-stereotypes and gender expression this means that most GLBT people (I don't know about the I in this case) will have both internalised Transphobia AND Homophobia. Many deal first with the one that seems most directly relevant to them and push issues they have into the other. Thus resulting in the scapegoating of T by some GLB for lack of societal acceptance and the same towards GLB by some T. Then add the whole aspect of sexism and internalised sexism and all the rest and we can see how these are all layers of problems within the commmunity which people can and do rise above as they face and heal their internal issues and improve self-acceptance.<br /><br />There's also generational change in this too. So there's a lot of room for rational hope in this.<br /><br />Exposure to those others people have issues with is powerful. The more people are around someone that runs counter to their negative stereotypes and fears the easier it is for them to change their views. There is a place for rage and direct action and a place for gradual (safety conscious of course) acclimatisation. And it's good for us all to regularly shift between the two in order to preserve our own capacity for action preventing burnout but also to see the positive side of growing community and societal acceptance which we otherwise would miss if we always focussed on the battles with the uber-phobes.<br /><br />Like the taxi driver a couple days ago who apologised for calling me mate when he saw my lipstick and long pink nails and who after i said i wasn't offended he made very clear in that eager awkward way many have how open-minded he was. It was very uplifting.<br /><br />P.S. I'll be heading down to spend time with my partner in days so will not be online much for couple weeks. I'll be plenty busy but i may try and make a youtube video like you've been suggesting if i get the chance.Battybattybatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18030389503526882755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-66774561908653148322010-04-14T21:40:29.989-07:002010-04-14T21:40:29.989-07:00(damn i need "spell check")(damn i need "spell check")gaeligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143753398630917915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-29518429424664456112010-04-14T21:39:24.471-07:002010-04-14T21:39:24.471-07:00wow you are optomistic.
i'm at a "tune ou...wow you are optomistic.<br />i'm at a "tune out the bigots"<br />place lately, and it is so hard to care what they think w/out getting disspirited.<br /><br />to actually dialog with them seems hard.look at the people on bilerico, rallying AGAINST the Gender community, as opposed to supporters coming on-thread.<br />that always makes me sad/mad/aloof<br />to the people. but we Do need to fight, and ignore the naysayers.<br />there used to be people in wars on radio moral-busting the troups.<br />that is what naysayers are like.<br />how do we "make" people be "liberal"<br />or ethical?<br />i have been a <br />"one's own little patch of ground"<br />type activist(challenging wrongs in my space if i can, on all liberal fronts)<br />the larger picture is complicated.<br />i wonder what the numbers are really like on "glbt" harmony?<br />how many really care.<br />got any %?gaeligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143753398630917915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-71407172413020110932010-04-14T21:27:29.243-07:002010-04-14T21:27:29.243-07:00Part of the problem is that the Right has turned A...Part of the problem is that the Right has turned Anti-Rights and Anti-Equality.<br /><br />The Enlightenment was a very long time ago. Modern Western Democracy is itself founded on the notions!<br /><br />So really Conservatism and the Right should actually be very much on-side. As should Religions whose own freedom of religion depends on the freedom of religion of others.<br /><br />Instead they have chosen to bed down with arguments that in themselves run counter to the basic principles of the rise of modern rights-based democracy. Those who are on the right and the center (and many in the left damnit!) need to be reminded of these basic principles and what they fully mean.<br /><br />We need these discussions and arguments to be carried through to the people with intellectual integrity on the right too.Battybattybatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18030389503526882755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-5889333769355717332010-04-14T19:54:47.815-07:002010-04-14T19:54:47.815-07:00"Rights-organisations and activists need to d..."Rights-organisations and activists need to develop full Ethics Standards to ensure that they do not harm the rights of others in their fight and in proposed legislative reforms except where it fits the exceptions discussed above.<br /><br />* Websites have a Duty-Of-Care to the members of forums, to commentors, to the community they are targeted at and serve. That this includes troublesome members/commentors who may act from triggers and inner pain and refelxive defencive aggression as well as the community they are trying to create a safe stable place for and that while difficult to balance these policies regarding moderation, temp-bans and bans need to consider the realities of mental illness, vulnerability to suicide and the like all too often ignored"<br /><br />Yes.<br /><br />...unfortunatly, <br />so often disenfranchized minorities are not "lefty's" or "liberals" per say, but simply "i me mine" and would be tory or republican or rightist if not personally othered!<br />hence the current argument at bilerico (for example)<br />re "trans" people's take on slurs about them, etc, which i think my link-to failed to post correctly.....<br />that discussion/fight is ground zero for this discussion, at the moment.....<br /><br />www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_glee(etc)<br /><br />our current contention is:<br />if cis glb people don't SEE <br />the slur, we say "oh well"<br />we don't need "your" approval to feel offended.<br /><br />and i have to say that i'm just as stumped on this topic's over all resolution as i am on the question of "log cabin republicans"<br />and stuff like that.<br />what to do?<br /><br />"minorities" are no more likely <br />to see themselves as "liberal"<br />as the next *guy*. ya know?<br />i guess this is up to activists, and to just say "F**k ya"<br />"if YOU don't support everyone, <br />i STILL do"....<br /><br />and stop worrying about the "dieks"<br />of the world, unless they have some power.i am tuning the haters out, and "hearing" the allies, lately.<br />let 'em die for want of air-time.<br />don't feed the trolls, etc.<br /><br />tho easier said then done, and only 1 part of the answer, i fear....<br />sighgaeligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143753398630917915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-39100313074401632872010-04-14T18:45:27.564-07:002010-04-14T18:45:27.564-07:00oops trying again:
http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04...oops trying again:<br />http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_glee_really_a_friend_of_the_<br />lgbt_community.phpgaeligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143753398630917915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-74561902249699682512010-04-14T18:44:21.159-07:002010-04-14T18:44:21.159-07:00hey all,
speaking of community:
support T's in...hey all,<br />speaking of community:<br />support T's in comments on this site:<br />http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_glee_really_a_friend_of_the_lgbt_community.php<br /><br />if so inclined<br />we're getting drowned out as usual....gaeligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143753398630917915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8169987425032430936.post-1400986759509629522010-04-14T18:09:25.811-07:002010-04-14T18:09:25.811-07:00yay (for the *only* really "Trans and Gender ...yay (for the *only* really "Trans and Gender specific" site online!they do get us:)<br /><br />http://questioningtransphobia.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/a-safer-space/<br /><br />and<br /><br />http://questioningtransphobia.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/commenting-and-such/comment-page-1/#comment-17004gaeligehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143753398630917915noreply@blogger.com